Age limits

[sideshow1701]

Kids i mean anywhere from 16-22 shouldnt be on here at all

they are to impressionable.

If a kid is reading this ,you need to be gone period.way way to young.

Ive helped train kids in the gym and seen first hand what roids do to them

and they are easy to spot,plus you are a target for cops and dealers.

How did i know the kids were on roids, side effects,and after they are off they

wonder way they change back,then the depression sets in.

We cant have that on here at all and Ill fight to make it happen.

Plus a selfish motive you not getting on here and get caught doing something

and take any of my brothers down with you,NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I try to stay in a neutral place ,not this time.

[shlders]

bump!!!!!!

[doozied]

i was a skiny kid and never used roids but i did weights for 3 years before i started seeing results and kept doing weights for 7 years. Started at 70kg after wards i weighed 97kg at my peak . IMO there is no easy way out, you have to do the hard work first and when you stop getting results then you use. my 02

[bdvar]

Sideshow i understand where u are coming from but all of those reasons u just stated i dnt understand how age points a finger to. Ive witnessed groups of grown men openly talk about juice in the gym around the age of 35 who had no diet base or knowledge of pct all they know is shoot up and u get big. I am 22 and have more dedication than most in and out of the gym and am vastly knowlegable of aas and its risks and take offense to ur statement so you fight to get me away from SW but ill b damned if i will not fight back because my dedication to train and obtain knowledge will only continue to grow stronger regardless of my presence at SW

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by bdvar

Sideshow i understand where u are coming from but all of those reasons u just stated i dnt understand how age points a finger to. Ive witnessed groups of grown men openly talk about juice in the gym around the age of 35 who had no diet base or knowledge of pct all they know is shoot up and u get big. I am 22 and have more dedication than most in and out of the gym and am vastly knowlegable of aas and its risks and take offense to ur statement so you fight to get me away from SW but ill b damned if i will not fight back because my dedication to train and obtain knowledge will only continue to grow stronger regardless of my presence at SW

I agree 100% with you my brother. I respect Sideshow 100% if he doesn't want to give advice to people in certain age groups but I personally would give advice to anyone 18 years or older. Arnold won the Universe at 19 and the Government sends men to war at 18. I would much rather see a 18 year old get advice then go off on his own and get hurt bad. Just my opinion Sideshow I respect yours also brother.....Freakkkk

[Dead23]

Originally Posted by sideshow1701

Kids i mean anywhere from 16-22 shouldnt be on here at all

they are to impressionable.

If a kid is reading this ,you need to be gone period.way way to young.

Ive helped train kids in the gym and seen first hand what roids do to them

and they are easy to spot,plus you are a target for cops and dealers.

How did i know the kids were on roids, side effects,and after they are off they

wonder way they change back,then the depression sets in.

We cant have that on here at all and Ill fight to make it happen.

Plus a selfish motive you not getting on here and get caught doing something

and take any of my brothers down with you,NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I try to stay in a neutral place ,not this time.

... lol even if one of your brothers was secretly on the younger side of the scale??

You're right though, ass can mess with you. Which is why I had a year off.

[bdvar]

Thanks freak i think what sideshow really means is people with lack of dedication and maturity which yes younger bros usually fall into that category but not everyone. Pushing myself over and beyond my limits has been a daily routine since i was very young i grew up in a very sports oriented area where ive been to state championships and college playoffs dedication is in my blood so do not degrade me because of my age it is just a number not who i am

[Dead23]

Originally Posted by bdvar

Thanks freak i think what sideshow really means is people with lack of dedication and maturity which yes younger bros usually fall into that category but not everyone. Pushing myself over and beyond my limits has been a daily routine since i was very young i grew up in a very sports oriented area where ive been to state championships and college playoffs dedication is in my blood so do not degrade me because of my age it is just a number not who i am

I wish there was a like button... Bdvar I'm around the same age as you and would have to agree.

Side: You've still put up a hugely valid point. People who lack the maturity should wait until their balls drop before touching ASS.

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by bdvar

Thanks freak i think what sideshow really means is people with lack of dedication and maturity which yes younger bros usually fall into that category but not everyone. Pushing myself over and beyond my limits has been a daily routine since i was very young i grew up in a very sports oriented area where ive been to state championships and college playoffs dedication is in my blood so do not degrade me because of my age it is just a number not who i am

I agree my friend and have tons of respect for Sideshow also.

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by Dead23

I wish there was a like button... Bdvar I'm around the same age as you and would have to agree.

Side: You've still put up a hugely valid point. People who lack the maturity should wait until their balls drop before touching ASS.

Now fuck that I was on the ASS at 13 brother . Now AAS is different Dead > ....Freakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Dead23]

Originally Posted by freakofnature

Now fuck that I was on the ASS at 13 brother . Now AAS is different Dead > ....Freakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[sideshow1701]

The age is a very serious thing while in college at 40ish I helped train alot kids

lifting NOT JUICING I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.

A young gun would do a heavy cycle 18 i think he ended up in the involuntary

mental health ward.He had a mental collapse,melt down sever depression.

Now as I watch these forums Im seeing younger gym rats I cant allow

someone that young getting screwed up on juice its just too young.

If you feel im wrong thats Ok its ur right but I have a right to safety of young

kids,If I cause friction and get Banned because I want to save someone from

ending up in a hospital Im going to do it.

Maybe Im paranoid I see alot off kids trying on here and I really dis agree to

it.And I dont want to be the parent that has to tell the kids parent he

committed suicide.

A line in the sand has to be drawn age is a serious factor ,at those ages you

have alot more natural stuff then the synthetics.You dont need it ,UNLESS

A DOCTOR SAYS OTHER WISE,thats fair then a good reason.

And I have my own algorithmic eq that can tell me if some ones of age

or a scammer.

Like CERBERUS the three headed dog that gaurded the door to Hades

as a elder as most are here no kids allowed.

I REALLY need a MODS input also.

[sideshow1701]

1 exception

servicemen and woman ,thats the only 1 that has justification to me,

you need every advantage you can get,you need an edge.

I try to stay neutral but not this time.

[bdvar]

Sideshow i respect ur justification but depression is a factor of lack of maturity,dedication,knowledge,and respecting aas. Before u juice u must b mature enough and must b ready mentally,dedication is not only to the cycle but off cycle u train even harder,having the knowledge of the compound u use inside and out before u use and can use it as safe as possible,and repsect every spect of aas and do not abuse it time on equals time off sometimes more time off to make sure diet and training are flawless before that first injection.I am not ur typical 22 yr old gym rat sideshow and maybe i am to young to use aas but it is not because of my knowledge,dedication,or lack of preparation to cycle. I dedicate myself 110% i am up at 325am EVERYDAY to eat and gym by 355am then i work sometimes 12-15 hour days as a welder in which the aas gives me an edge over others working with heavy steel and stamina to keep going when that 17 hour day heppens so again i am not ur typical 22 yr old but i do not kno everything and that is why i am her,to learn and excel no matter my age

[cappybye]

The same guys bumping this thread were giving 18 year old overweight Shane advice last week. It wasn't diet and training advice either

[sideshow1701]

bdvar

I understand what you are saying but your own words tell the story of why

we should not allow kids access to such meds.They do not have the mind set

to handle such things and seen to much of wrong advice.

We as mentors have to know to step in and say no to young ones that dont

need such substances.Another problem that is a plague once they get them

they are very careless and could get someone arrested or hurt.Im not going to

the house of many doors for anyone that would be careless with

things.For yourself you are already in the system as it is,your argument

doesnt fall on deaf ears.

Now its your job also to protect members and people from using the

knowledge for reprehensible means,and on my part if I find under age on this

forum I will be very displeased.

As for making a point its been made but my mind has not changed.

Being an adult takes more than age it takes mental spiritual physical discipline

and as you get older that defines who you are as a man.

On this forum some members rise above just being a minion and stride to

become better than the whole,and then others have goats for girlfriends.

By the way I want mine back.powerman yes you.

[Gissur]

Im new here but I can say this.

Elite athletics at young age, who could benefit from it, will get it outside of these boards, be it due to potential etc.

There is no reason to use gear until you have a few years of training behind you. You grow very fast as it is in the beginning. That alone is a factor for me.
Use Amino Acids, Creatine, and a strong diet. Its anyway the way to go 9/10.
You use it when you hit a plateu.
So ok i have never used it but im curious. I get in much better shape then many users, through hard training, dedication and above all, knowledge of how to train and having a fair share of diet knowledge.

If you are in the special ops, as I was back in the days(european) they give it to you for free anyway if you want it, so no need to be on these boards there either. Atleast they gave us if we wanted. I declined, I was super fit anyway, as 99% of the others, or you have no place there to start with.

Service men and woman not on the front have no need. Simple as. Unless your a training freak and want to step above and beyond, thats cool.

Learn to train and eat properly first and be amazed at the results.

I have been here now on these boards for a week and no offence, but I have a feeling some people in here hardly have a body that some would count as very fit, and yet they start a cykle. For me, its madness.
Thats it for me.

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by Gissur

Im new here but I can say this.

Elite athletics at young age, who could benefit from it, will get it outside of these boards, be it due to potential etc.

There is no reason to use gear until you have a few years of training behind you. You grow very fast as it is in the beginning. That alone is a factor for me.
Use Amino Acids, Creatine, and a strong diet. Its anyway the way to go 9/10.
You use it when you hit a plateu.
So ok i have never used it but im curious. I get in much better shape then many users, through hard training, dedication and above all, knowledge of how to train and having a fair share of diet knowledge.

If you are in the special ops, as I was back in the days(european) they give it to you for free anyway if you want it, so no need to be on these boards there either. Atleast they gave us if we wanted. I declined, I was super fit anyway, as 99% of the others, or you have no place there to start with.

Service men and woman not on the front have no need. Simple as. Unless your a training freak and want to step above and beyond, thats cool.

Learn to train and eat properly first and be amazed at the results.

I have been here now on these boards for a week and no offence, but I have a feeling some people in here hardly have a body that some would count as very fit, and yet they start a cykle. For me, its madness.
Thats it for me.

Lets see some pics of you..............

[powerman]

If you need juice before your 25 your a pussy IMO, if you think you need juice to play D1 football your a pussy and not good enough to play D1 football so get over it your a pussy. 46 before i tried it with yrs of training. To the pussies I dont care who i piss off here

We are all entiled to our opinions this just happens to be mine, so if i offend you just get over it. It doesnt mean i dont like you i just think your a pussy...LMFAO

[Replicator]

Im staying out of this one...its tricky .
PM ..you have got a way with words

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by Gissur

Im new here but I can say this.

Elite athletics at young age, who could benefit from it, will get it outside of these boards, be it due to potential etc.

There is no reason to use gear until you have a few years of training behind you. You grow very fast as it is in the beginning. That alone is a factor for me.
Use Amino Acids, Creatine, and a strong diet. Its anyway the way to go 9/10.
You use it when you hit a plateu.
So ok i have never used it but im curious. I get in much better shape then many users, through hard training, dedication and above all, knowledge of how to train and having a fair share of diet knowledge.

If you are in the special ops, as I was back in the days(european) they give it to you for free anyway if you want it, so no need to be on these boards there either. Atleast they gave us if we wanted. I declined, I was super fit anyway, as 99% of the others, or you have no place there to start with.

Service men and woman not on the front have no need. Simple as. Unless your a training freak and want to step above and beyond, thats cool.

Learn to train and eat properly first and be amazed at the results.

I have been here now on these boards for a week and no offence, but I have a feeling some people in here hardly have a body that some would count as very fit, and yet they start a cykle. For me, its madness.
Thats it for me.

Bro you weigh 155 pounds I hope you never did a cycle because if ya did it was bunk. I respect Black ops my kid has the game on Playstation 3. I would suggest anyone with the same training as you, not on aas but just a 200 pound guy without the eating problem like yours would have a huge edge during any hand to hand combat situations.

I also remind you that your on a body building forum and not on a military forum. Your going to meet tons of guys on these forums at 25 years old 185 pounds that have been breaking their balls for years training and have amazing diets also. They still might not have your amazing Black ninja shape because GENETICS play a huge roll in everything.

You can say all day no offense or this and that or call me fat. Yes you can Karate the shit out of me with your Black ops ninja flipping training. Yes your better than me. Yes you have more money. Yeah you even have a mother & father but one thing for sure I hope your black ops ass wasn't drawing up the fight plans because you can't fucking spell words like offense which yours is the best of course also .

So get your super fit 155 pound black ops ass back on your cycle not cykle and ride far away until your old enough to spell & come back to SW one day.

Thats it for me...You been served NUCCA..... You also spelled Plateau wrong also. So see Black ops your not always right my friend some on here might not be in the best of shape, they might not have the best genetics but they don't claim they do or to be some black ops Ninja spelling simple Military jargon wrong like plateau and offense. SO MANY MIGHT SAY YOUR NOT QUALIFIED ALSO BITCH BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING READ YOU MAY BLOW UP THE WRONG SHIT..NUCCCCAAAAAA.

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by powerman

If you need juice before your 25 your a pussy IMO, if you think you need juice to play D1 football your a pussy and not good enough to play D1 football so get over it your a pussy. 46 before i tried it with yrs of training. To the pussies I dont care who i piss off here

We are all entiled to our opinions this just happens to be mine, so if i offend you just get over it. It doesnt mean i dont like you i just think your a pussy...LMFAO

Your pussy.....look at me I'm POWEMANNNN......,,,,,,LMFAO. Go EaT a HoGiE ChUnKy fUcK......

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by freakofnature

Bro you weigh 155 pounds I hope you never did a cycle because if ya did it was bunk. I respect Black ops my kid has the game on Playstation 3. I would suggest anyone with the same training as you, not on aas but just a 200 pound guy without the eating problem like yours would have a huge edge during any hand to hand combat situations.

I also remind you that your on a body building forum and not on a military forum. Your going to meet tons of guys on these forums at 25 years old 185 pounds that have been breaking their balls for years training and have amazing diets also. They still might not have your amazing Black ninja shape because GENETICS play a huge roll in everything.

You can say all day no offense or this and that or call me fat. Yes you can Karate the shit out of me with your Black ops ninja flipping training. Yes your better than me. Yes you have more money. Yeah you even have a mother & father but one thing for sure I hope your black ops ass wasn't drawing up the fight plans because you can't fucking spell words like offense which yours is the best of course also .

So get you super fit 155 pound black ops ass back on your cycle not cykle and ride far away until your old enough to spell & come back to SW one day.

Thats it for me...You been served NUCCA..... You also spelled Plateau wrong also. So see Black ops your not always right my friend some on here might not be in the best of shape, they might not have the best genetics but they don't claim they do or to be some black ops Ninja spelling simple Military jargon wrong like plateau and offense. SO MANY MIGHT SAY YOUR NOT QUALIFIED ALSO BITCH BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING READ YOU MAY BLOW UP THE WRONG SHIT..NUCCCCAAAAAA.

Originally Posted by freakofnature

Your pussy.....look at me I'm POWEMANNNN......,,,,,,LMFAO. Go EaT a HoGiE ChUnKy fUcK......

yup Freaks back alright

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by Replicator

yup Freaks back alright

LMFAO,weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..... ..

[Gissur]

Originally Posted by Replicator

yup Freaks back alright

Thats not my weight dude:-)

Ill post some pics later when Im a little bit back in old shape.

My BF is around 6% btw, natural.

I told you, Im fit.

4 more days then off for a month.

PS: weight means nothing when half of it is not muscles freak.
Besides, Im rather short. If I was 200 pounds I would have a pro signature somewhere, I never aspired for that. I just like to be fit:-)