Test E.. Does it really work good by itself?

[drivehard18]

Hi everyone, Im fixing to order my first gear and I hear from everyone to just run Test E or Test P First off is either one better than the other?? And will I get that good of result with just Test? I keep going back and forth from reading shit that maybe I should do Test and kickstart it with D-Boll for a few weeks, Then I think well maybe I dont want all the harsh sides so maybe I should run Test and Anavar so I can keep most my gains and lose some fat in the process. As you can tell im confused and just want to have a good experients for my first Cycle , Cause like they say you only get one first cycle. LOL Any input would be greatly appretiated. Thanks

[dieseld]

Test P has a shorter half life, u have to pin eod and can be more painful, I have no problems with it, and less water retention.. Test E is a longer ester with a longer half life. Test only cycle is best for ur first. Imo.

[Pack11]

Unless you want to be pinning every other day, run Test E or Test C. I saw really good gains on 400mg/week (only one pin per week) for 9 weeks for my first cycle. If you go with test e or test c I wouldn't go much shorter than 9 weeks. Test P you can run a shorter cycle, but I hear it can be painful. I would just go with the E or C so your first cycle is smooth and easy.

[soldierdavis]

For your first cycle, test e is the way to go.... The difference between test p and e is the ester, p is short and e is long. With test e, you can take two shots a week @ 1cc, While wth test prop you will have to take a shot every day or every other day. Dbol is used for a kickstarter with a test e cycle because it takes aroound 3-4 weeks for test e to build up in your system and kick in.

[drivehard18]

Originally Posted by Pack11

Unless you want to be pinning every other day, run Test E or Test C. I saw really good gains on 400mg/week (only one pin per week) for 9 weeks for my first cycle. If you go with test e or test c I wouldn't go much shorter than 9 weeks. Test P you can run a shorter cycle, but I hear it can be painful. I would just go with the E or C so your first cycle is smooth and easy.

Did you have many sides from your cycle of Test only? And was the PTC very rough did you have to use HGC?

[Pack11]

I got a few sides, sensitive nipples and a little bit of estrogen bloat. But 10 mg of nolvadex per day made those subside. Didn't need HCG for pct, just clomid and increased the nolva dose. If you add something like dbol you are much more likely to get unwanted side effects.

[drivehard18]

Originally Posted by Pack11

I got a few sides, sensitive nipples and a little bit of estrogen bloat. But 10 mg of nolvadex per day made those subside. Didn't need HCG for pct, just clomid and increased the nolva dose. If you add something like dbol you are much more likely to get unwanted side effects.

So you started Novla while you were still on cycle? I heard that for sides to use Arimidex and Nolva for PTC???

[Pack11]

Yes something like Nolvadex, Aromisin, or Armidex can be used on cycle to keep the estrogen at bay. As far as PCT there are a ton of ways to do it. Check out the pct forum to look at the options.

Gyno can show up while cycling or after your done. So having an AI or SERM on hand before your even start is really important.

[doozied]

you will get some good resaults from a test e only cycle, 2 weekly injections and your done. verry little pain with test e if you were to use test prop you will have to do continious injections every second day and you will feel a lot of site pain bit of a hassel, for that cycle you will feel good gains from test e with a good diet full of protien and the right training you could put on say 15 pounds of muscle and loose some fat in the prosess

[juiced69]

First cycle dude you should run
1000mg's Sus. Front Load week One 2500mg's
1200mg's Deca or Eq Front Load Week One 3000mg's
Tren Ace (Parabolin) 300mg;s EOD First Shot 900mg's
D-Bol & Halo 100mg's 50 each
HGH 5 IU'S Daily
Humatropin Insulin 2 Iu's Daily
Once I got started I just couldnt stop!!!

Test E is fine first cycle me personally would do and did with amazing results for real
400mg's Test Cyp.
400mg's Deca Durabolin
That was it split up into three shots through out the week with great results I would add some deca and up your test to 400mg's Bro. IMO

[doozied]

[QUOTE=juiced69;123325]First cycle dude you should run
1000mg's Sus. Front Load week One 2500mg's
1200mg's Deca or Eq Front Load Week One 3000mg's
Tren Ace (Parabolin) 300mg;s EOD First Shot 900mg's
D-Bol & Halo 100mg's 50 each
HGH 5 IU'S Daily
Humatropin Insulin 2 Iu's Daily
Once I got started I just couldnt stop!!!

yeah!!!! you should but on a pound or two or go into a psychotic roid rage

[dieseld]

Originally Posted by juiced69

First cycle dude you should run
1000mg's Sus. Front Load week One 2500mg's
1200mg's Deca or Eq Front Load Week One 3000mg's
Tren Ace (Parabolin) 300mg;s EOD First Shot 900mg's
D-Bol & Halo 100mg's 50 each
HGH 5 IU'S Daily
Humatropin Insulin 2 Iu's Daily
Once I got started I just couldnt stop!!!

Test E is fine first cycle me personally would do and did with amazing results for real
400mg's Test Cyp.
400mg's Deca Durabolin
That was it split up into three shots through out the week with great results I would add some deca and up your test to 400mg's Bro. IMO

Juiced that is truly a great first cycle! Psycho MF!

[drivehard18]

Originally Posted by juiced69

First cycle dude you should run
1000mg's Sus. Front Load week One 2500mg's
1200mg's Deca or Eq Front Load Week One 3000mg's
Tren Ace (Parabolin) 300mg;s EOD First Shot 900mg's
D-Bol & Halo 100mg's 50 each
HGH 5 IU'S Daily
Humatropin Insulin 2 Iu's Daily
Once I got started I just couldnt stop!!!

Test E is fine first cycle me personally would do and did with amazing results for real
400mg's Test Cyp.
400mg's Deca Durabolin
That was it split up into three shots through out the week with great results I would add some deca and up your test to 400mg's Bro. IMO

Shit Juiced I came here for a little good advice not to go into Liver failer and kill my mom. LOL

[Replicator]

Test E.. Does it really work good by itself

yes ......test is test

[dieseld]

Originally Posted by drivehard18

Shit Juiced I came here for a little good advice not to go into Liver failer and kill my mom. LOL

Ur liver should be fine on that cycle, but now u know y juiced rages!

[Action]

Originally Posted by drivehard18

Hi everyone, Im fixing to order my first gear and I hear from everyone to just run Test E or Test P First off is either one better than the other?? And will I get that good of result with just Test? I keep going back and forth from reading shit that maybe I should do Test and kickstart it with D-Boll for a few weeks, Then I think well maybe I dont want all the harsh sides so maybe I should run Test and Anavar so I can keep most my gains and lose some fat in the process. As you can tell im confused and just want to have a good experients for my first Cycle , Cause like they say you only get one first cycle. LOL Any input would be greatly appretiated. Thanks

That's a hard question to answer. How good your results are depend on your training and diet, which is more important than the compound itself.

Also, your dosage will have a big part to play, as well as frequency of injects.

[Action]

Originally Posted by juiced69

First cycle dude you should run
1000mg's Sus. Front Load week One 2500mg's
1200mg's Deca or Eq Front Load Week One 3000mg's
Tren Ace (Parabolin) 300mg;s EOD First Shot 900mg's
D-Bol & Halo 100mg's 50 each
HGH 5 IU'S Daily
Humatropin Insulin 2 Iu's Daily
Once I got started I just couldnt stop!!!

Test E is fine first cycle me personally would do and did with amazing results for real
400mg's Test Cyp.
400mg's Deca Durabolin
That was it split up into three shots through out the week with great results I would add some deca and up your test to 400mg's Bro. IMO

Lol, bro, are you kidding me? Bad example for the newbies.

This is a good example of what NOT to run for a first cycle.

This is an advanced cycle.

[layed]

a year or two in when I found myself in a position that I couldn't afford a good cycle, I just ran a gram of test e every week, since it was cheap, and was hoping to just maintain while I gathered funds for something better, and I followed a great diet, I was so scared to lose what I'd built previously........after 6 weeks......I looked in the mirror and saw some great improvements.

Yes, test e....by itself.....works. Can you do better? sure, but you can achieve great gains on just test.

[Action]

I'm surprised at you Juiced!!!

[muscleguy]

test is great, especially for a first run. You don't need crazy doses either. 250 first few weeks up to 500 mg. You'll be very very happy. E is the way to go, P is too many pokes. Start low, be safe.

[Gissur]

Since Im looking for what to use for first cykle, this thread have some great info for me as well.
Especially Juices info....
Can you actually survive that?:-)

So then I believe I have found what I need.
Now I just need to find from where.